Dungeon Master Critique: Dissecting Justin's September One-Shot Part 2

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welcome back to how to be a better d m i'm your host justin lewis

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here with other host tanner wayland i always i always get confused when

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yeah

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i say co hosts or whatever don't like the word co

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uh

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with host tanner wayland

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hello

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go

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i'm

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ahead tanner

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other host tanner

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uh

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wayland pleasure to be here

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yes please forgive my awkwardness i just came back from

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m

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thanksgiving break and we here how to be a better dim hope you had an

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excellent thanksgiving as for those of you who are new to the show this is

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the show designed to help you craft better stories for yourselves and your players as

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u d m sessions of d and d as you can tell i'm slightly a

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little rusty cause we did just come back from thanksgiving one quick announcement before we

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get to the show is just a big thank you for all of you listening

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to the show over the weekend i was able to do the one shot and

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i guess it was november's one shot and time and time again it amazes me

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that we're able to pull random strangers together for four hours they don't end up

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hating each other instead

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yeah

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they actually laugh and they seem to become genuine friends after four hours and they've

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never met each other before they don't know each other and it's just amazing so

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a big thank you um and we want to keep doing this we want to

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make it better so if you get a moment go to better dungeon master dot

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com slash feedback and answer a few questions on what we can more to help

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you be a better d m h and obviously we're going to have some more

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announcements at the end of today's show but again today we are dissecting the one

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shot from septem ber and we're going to hopefully start off where we left off

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but if we don't bear with us and uh the audio levels might be a

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little monkey but again just try and bear with us and ten or anything i

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say before we get started

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no just just excited to review this one shot

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excellent excellent well here we go i'm going to share you can also check this

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out if you're not watching it live on youtube you can go to our youtube

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channel and watch it live otherwise if you're listening to this on podcast will try

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and explain anything that's visual but hopefully you don't miss anything so actually i don't

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think i shared my audio it's very important click the share system audio otherwise no

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one can hear it so here's

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good

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take two okay do you hear that tenor

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yes i do

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perfect perfect

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oh

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m

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i think we were forward a little bit

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just

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okay

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love it

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yeah yeah oh yeah yeah yeah m

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oh

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oh

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a

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a i know this is probably like being a little picky but to me if

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the group travelled into the city and it's morning early enough that they haven't had

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breakfast like that's that they must have gotten up in the middle of the night

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like

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true true

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that like i wanted them to be able to be in teresa's house to get

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the quest download in a sense um i haven't

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yeah

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quite figured out how to make it you know

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m well i do think that you ruined the game for them because they probably

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were thinking about that the whole time they were like

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uh

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oh my goodness why would we break camp without breakfast

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h or second breakfast right

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or second brat what are we doing

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uh

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um no i think that

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yeah

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is a small thing but uh but you know also maybe saves you

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yeah

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some you know or at least it would add some immersion

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uh

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you know if you do kind of have that kind of mental clock of like

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oh what time is it

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what would make

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oh

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sense for these players

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yeah

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for these characters

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oh

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you know but a small thing don't worry i don't think that was terrible

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well thinking about it now and maybe the reason why i bring it up is

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because it does kind of set the pacing for the day you know they're starting

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out in the morning if they came at lunch time and they had lunch i

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think that might make it a little bit more mysterious because

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make

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then

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more sense

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they would really only be able to investigate one or two houses before it gets

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dark

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m

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and kind of adds to the mood you know what i mean

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that's that's a good point i think that if you

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m

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because i've actually played this one shot with you too and i realized i was

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like okay we all kind of assumed it happened in one day um

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h

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m it

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m

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did happen one day and i'm like you know i think that having that change

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in time to darker so that a lot of the climax

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h

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is happening

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m

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like

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m

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later i think that would be a good mood thing and could make it more

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horrifying for the scary parts you know things

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yeah

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like that

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yeah exactly that's a good thing

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oh oh oh yeah m

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yeah yeah

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oh

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m

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ah yeah

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yeah

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yuh so just kind of a question on your thoughts do you

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yeah

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think something more nefarious should have had and two make her worried or or is

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that enough

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i'm glad you paused because like i was having a thought about the set up

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and i was like you know what i know that you were probably trying not

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to give too much info because you wanted most of the information gather to happen

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at the place you know where it's like more in person

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h

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you know more

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m

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active when you're talking to those three families my issue though is i do think

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it was like oh they just started acting weird i do feel like there should

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have been more of an inciting event for her like oh they started acting weird

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and then all three of them invited me something you know to the old cave

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out side of town or somethin you know

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hm

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and when

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oh

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i arrived they acted really weird and i barely got away who knows what right

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it doesn't have to be exactly like that but just something that gets her hackles

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on edge like more or then just oh they started acting

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yeah

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weird after disappearing another thing that i thought in terms of set up that would

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have helped is if if they had gone somewhere specifically that you knew about now

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because

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because as i recall later on like the families are like oh no we just

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left tad or whatever else right but

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hm

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i think in terms of just adding settings to the story it would be nice

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if like oh they left to blank place um or they said that they left

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to this one place and then they've all been acting were you know and then

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you could actually like give the players options of like oh they could go to

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each of the families or they could go to that place or who knows what

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right i think it just needed a little bit more a hook i guess beyond

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the fact that they were acting weird whether that's like hey there needs to be

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more

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yeah

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nefarious happenings or there needs to be like some kind of additional dat hal in

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terms of like where they went

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m

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or what specifically they were doing you know

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gotcha so um what if there was a fourth family that disappeared first and has

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not reappeared

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m interesting interesting that could work i think either that could work or the reverse

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where it's like oh another family just disappeared but this family told me that they

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were going blank you know or something right just something about some remaining mystery i

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guess and like a still missing family is a great idea right i would also

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add to to that her being like oh i also had another person who thought

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was weird and he said that he was going to go find it out and

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i haven't heard from him you know

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ah

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uh kind

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m

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of adding peril

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m

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the whole situation right

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yeah yeah uh this is getting my mind thinking because so like what if there

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was a second constable essentially well so the hard line that i'm finding is it

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has to be like like concerning enough that teresa is like oh my gosh help

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but

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yeah

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like innocuous enough that most people in the town don't think anything of it you

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know

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yeah like and i think i mean we're going to hear and you've explained a

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little bits like oh she has had interactions with these families so it's like oh

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she might be one of the only people noticing but

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m m

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but yeah i think there just needs to be um and maybe you could just

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explain away by like hey this is a small

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yeah

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town not everybody interact i happen to know these people though you know

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yeah okay what about this

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oh

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secret

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ah

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detail that teresa like lets out and she explains that she's kind of like terrified

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to admit it but the set and family

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m

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she actually saw them like leaving the city or returning maybe returning might be better

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a

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like

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journey would

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returning

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be better now

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to the city in the like dark of night coming from a specific direction m

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yeah that's smart actually i think just just additional details because currently she's doing a

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lot

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m

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of like oh i'm just worried can you go find it out and then i

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think the issue

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yeah

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that you're going to run into here is that players are going to be like

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oh we didn't at much in fow from them

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right

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from her let's ask a lot of questions and then they're going to come away

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like oh those questions didn't really help much because she doesn't know much you know

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that's

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um

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right okay

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and so either give her more to know or i have heard me like i

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really don't know anything but the reason why

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yeah

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i got all scared is because of this big thing someone disappeared or whatever you

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know

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yeah

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and and so you were the only ones i could turn to can you go

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check it out you know so that they spend less time

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yeah

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at her place asking questions that probably won't have any answers you know

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yeah i mean it wastes less time that's a really good point either make her

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like a valuable resource or or shorten the interaction

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yeah that's a great way to put it

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excellent anything else on this

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no

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section

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that's awesome

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cool yeah

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yeah oh

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ye

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yeah

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oh

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yeah yeah

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m

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yeah

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m

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m oh

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yeah

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m

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yah yeah

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yeah yeah i don't think quabble is a real word by the way

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squabble is what you're thinking

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yeah yeah yeah oh oh yeah

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yeah oh

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m yeah

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justin

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okay

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go ahead

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here's something good that i see that you're doing so we were talking about like

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oh it'd be nice if you had like initially like served up some questions here

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yours seeing how it's like hey even if you don't your it seems like you've

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done enough preparation to wear like when he was like oh what are they doing

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weird like i think was a pretty good you know little speech or monologue about

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like oh something about

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ah

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being alive the fidget things like that they weren't doing that and also the emotions

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and things like that i think the only way you can make it better well

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not the only way but one of the ways you can make it better is

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like a specific interaction be like so i went up to deliver to get milk

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from them and when they came they handed me you know like some milk and

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just immediately closed the door so you know who knows what it just something specific

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yeah

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kind of like an anecdote i think that would add to it but otherwise i

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think that you did a very good job of being like hey here's some specific

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ways that it's kind of weird right

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yeah

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yeah

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i think that's excellent thing to point out that's the classic thing of show don't

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tell you

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yeah

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know like oh how how have they been acting weird well the other day when

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i walked up and i said hello their child uh he looked at me didn't

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smile and then walked away you know super weird for a child or something you

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know and

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yeah

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it just it's seamless

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yeah i think that's totally true like in my mind uh finding out how to

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be very descriptive and not only your settings but also describing

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oh

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the actions of others that's

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yeah

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huge um for like flashing a character out and also adding depth conversation

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for sure for sure yeah yeah

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oh ah

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my sorry did you say something

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no no i just love it

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okay sorry yeah i got to be honest like having these one shots is super

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fun for me because you see people you know just just be these really funny

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characters and you know this group was really good particularly so t was awesome

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yeah

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yeah yeah yeah

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oh

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another way that making it go into night time would have been great

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say that again

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that's just another way that making it go into the night time would have been

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good is like oh no one

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hm

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really sees them at night the kind of stay indoors but ah you know and

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then if they went at night

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yeah

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you would see like

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oh

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acting very

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yeah

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weird you know

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yeah i also think i don't know why but that particular moment it made me

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think that i could have done a better job in picking the pattern of the

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families

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yeah

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that got

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visited

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that disappeared you know yeah

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oh

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yeah like figuring out like why was it the pealoffs the rokerofts and the utragards

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like what connects them i think you know if i had come up with some

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sort of pattern that might have been

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oh

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a little bit more intriguing and helpful to

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yeah

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the players

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yeah something like oh each of these families are blank you know keep to themselves

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yeah yeah

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or recently moved in in the past year or some or something right

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yeah or visited like you said visited a specific cave in the wilderness

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yeah

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or at some stuff from this

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yeah

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one merchant i don't know

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or had an argument with the mayor or something right whatever

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yeah

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it is

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yeah yeah that would be even better so

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yeah

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yeah

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oh yeah

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oh oh

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oh yeah

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m

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yeah yeah

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amazing

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yeah yeah yeah

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oh yeah

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m

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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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oh

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oh oh oh oh

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oh

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yeah

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so here's an idea

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yeah

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um as we were saying so the second family she notices a cloaked figure visiting

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them like entering their house the night before they disappeared

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m

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and the cloaked figure was short and it could either like the idea is to

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kind of plant the seed that it could either be the mayor or it could

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be constable brogan

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yeah

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um and then whichever one the play guess it's the opposite you know

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oh that's fun that's fun

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what do you think

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yeah i like that where it's like hey you're planning a seed but it's not

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so obvious

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m

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that it's only one person right

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m m

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yeah

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is that maybe too complicated

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h

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m

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m yeah you know i think that you could pull it off

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m

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well i would just my concern and my worry would be hey if you

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yeah

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overburden them with leads

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m

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and like threads to pull

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m

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especially

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m

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during one shot you know

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oh

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then that's i've seen it

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yeah

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in campaigns where if you give them too many threads to pull they just kind

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of

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ah

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they lose track of what they

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yeah

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i need to follow up on

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oh

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and they don't follow up on the most

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oh

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punchy one to begin with right

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yeah yeah

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for for me i would wait if you're going to drop like a tip like

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that like there was a short figure or something have

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yeah

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weight on that i would wait until you had visited like a family or two

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and maybe if the players haven't found anything else then it's like oh

[justin]: 00:28:04

h m

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let's let's drop a bread crumb for for them you

[justin]: 00:28:08

gotcha

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know

[justin]: 00:28:09

yeah

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um m a couple of things i noticed one i thought the how with the

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natural one i thought that was very well done like

[justin]: 00:28:21

yeah

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oh you're doing then you

[justin]: 00:28:22

yeah

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you smell you know snmirels i did think it as funny that you're like oh

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pulled it out of the oven and i was like did they use for ovens

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back in the day um

[justin]: 00:28:31

yeah

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i was just sitting there like

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yeah

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for a second was like i guess they did have some types of ovens where

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it's like oh the fire is underneath

[justin]: 00:28:39

yeah

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and then like an close space almost like a pet oven that's like heated from

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underneath um

[justin]: 00:28:44

yeah

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there's kind of things like that but but i love that

[justin]: 00:28:49

oh

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that kind of tack

[justin]: 00:28:50

ah

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i also know that this is a pretty smart group like they're asking good questions

[justin]: 00:28:54

hm

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m which is nice you know finally what was that last thing when they were

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asking about different stuff oh man i had i had a thought

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i guess my thought well one thought that i had right now is i think

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that it's gotten pretty well in terms of people interacting like i feel like each

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of your players has said something during the conversation which is

[justin]: 00:29:27

hm

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big right there's obviously some people who

[justin]: 00:29:30

yeah

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talk a little bit more than others i would just you know it's not always

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easy to uh to include people who are kind of on the quieter side in

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the same conversation

[justin]: 00:29:42

right

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but in future converlike when they go to investigate the families i think that's a

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great way place to remedy it kind of like hey if the current encounter is

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revolving around certain players make the next encounter kind of have the family talk specifically

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to the players who weren't kind of in the forefront in the last one right

[justin]: 00:30:08

yeah it's actually kind of funny you mentioned that because i know here we see

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yes

[justin]: 00:30:12

you know myself and then four players there's actually a fifth player who doesn't have

[justin]: 00:30:16

a screen showing

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oh

[justin]: 00:30:18

um

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that's right i forgot

[justin]: 00:30:19

he turned it off yeah and it's funny because he towards the beginning he was

[justin]: 00:30:24

very quiet they go to the first house and he splits off essentially because he's

[justin]: 00:30:30

a halfling and

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nice

[justin]: 00:30:31

he pretends to be a little boy

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oh nice

[justin]: 00:30:34

ah and so he splits yeah he splits off with the farmer's little boy and

[justin]: 00:30:40

has this entire scene with just him and this little boy and it's kind of

[justin]: 00:30:44

nice beas that you know it allows him to roll play you know as completely

[justin]: 00:30:50

by himself you know kind of have this entire scene to himself and then later

[justin]: 00:30:54

on it's much more collaborative betwee whole team which which is really cool but yeah

[justin]: 00:31:00

definitely good point that i could have i could have brought out you know his

[justin]: 00:31:05

conversation in this in this beginning point but luckily he himself remedied that later on

[justin]: 00:31:11

by saying hey i like pretend to be a little boy and you know so

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yeah that's that's great

[justin]: 00:31:17

um

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honestly

[justin]: 00:31:18

good

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yeah no that's it

[justin]: 00:31:22

sorry i think there's a little bit of lag but i think that's all the

[justin]: 00:31:26

time we have today so thank you guys for listening to today show a couple

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uh no honestly for any of you

[justin]: 00:33:15

oh

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who are listening to us kind of review

[justin]: 00:33:17

oh

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these sessions uh i hope that you realize

[justin]: 00:33:21

yeah

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that

[justin]: 00:33:21

yeah

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when we're reviewing a one shot we hope to do this a lot more even

weyland]: 00:33:26

with guest hosts m and even we're thinking about potentially having you you players that

weyland]: 00:33:33

we've played with in the past host some some one shots we intend to continue

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doing these kind of reviews and it's not to you know put anyone down but

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we genuinely think that you can learn a lot by analyzing and learning from past

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games and so yeah

[justin]: 00:33:53

yeah

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i love doing this

[justin]: 00:33:57

yeah ditto to that and i guess the only thing we can say is happy

[justin]: 00:34:03

holidays in case we don't see you a good afternoon in a good night that's

[justin]: 00:34:06

a little quote there from the truman show but

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uh

[justin]: 00:34:09

in all seriousness

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h

[justin]: 00:34:09

thank you guys for listening we'll be back next week for another amazing show and

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until then let's go ahead and roll initiative a